In-Ear Insights: How AI Impacts Billable Hours

In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie discusses modern billing challenges, and how AI impacts billable hours.

Katie tackles billable hours and what happens to them once AI cuts your work time down. She makes the case for value-based pricing over clocking hours, walks through the 5P framework for keeping your process clear to clients, and explains why saving time only counts if you actually do something with it.

00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – The billable hour dilemma
06:40 – How artificial tools change the workflow
12:30 – Finding value in the process
18:15 – Call to action

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Katie Robbert:
In this week’s In-Ear Insights, you get just me, Katie. Chris is on the road. And so we’re going to try something a little bit different. You get me, and as always with me is my chief marketing officer, Georgia. So she may or may not pop in.

This week I want to talk about billable hours. This is a hot topic in the world of consulting. It always has been. Billable hours is one of those things that people have always struggled to really define outside of legal, because that’s really where the precedent comes from, isn’t it?

When I worked at the agency, we were tasked with all of our work being billable. But when I looked at what we were doing, and this isn’t a knock at agencies, this is just the way that they work, we’re looking at this client has signed up for this much retainer. And this much retainer covers this much work. And so when you start to break down budgets at a very high level, you have however many people are going to be assigned to that particular retainer.

And then you have to calculate out, well, what is the bill rate for this for any individual? And then sort of back into the numbers. When I was working as a project manager, this is how we would do our budgeting. And so we would have software developers, we would have creative folks, we would have our marketing team. And every single one of those people has to have some sort of value assigned to them.

And that value then translates into how many hours they can contribute to any given project or task. And so if the task was we have to create a one-page brochure, that’s likely going to involve our marketing team and our creative team. Therefore, our software development team doesn’t need hours unless it’s something being put up on the website. So then they need to have time. And that’s like roughly how you would calculate the budget.

Now, when you’re talking about billable hours, you’re kind of working in the opposite. So you have this idea of how many hours any given person. So let’s say my bill rate was 100 dollars an hour just for easy math. And I had 10 hours to complete something. So of course I’m saying easy math, and I can’t calculate 10 times 100. So that’s a thousand.

So let’s say I have a thousand dollars. Let’s say my bill rate is 100 dollars an hour. So I have 10 hours that I can work with. What ends up happening when you have those billable hours is you say, okay, I have 10 hours. So I have to find 10 hours worth of work to bill, even if the work is only going to take me five hours. Because then I have this five-hour bucket left that I’ve already told them I’m looking at bill for.

Or if you’re just doing sort of time and expenses, you’re saying, I’m only going to bill you 500 dollars, not a thousand, like we originally agreed. Anyway, all to say that the billable hour is a really hard thing, especially now with AI. So AI has made us more productive. This is something that I’ve talked about in the newsletter, on the podcast, on the live streams.

It’s made us more productive. It’s allowed us to produce more. But now, where is the trade-off in that? So one of the things that I was reading this morning was Upwork, Future of Work Index 2026, how AI is redefining the value of work and skilled freelancing accelerates. So a freelancer is someone who definitely is doing hourly billing. So it’s going to take me X number of hours to do it.

I’m going to bill you for all the hours that I work. In their world, it almost doesn’t matter if they’re using AI or not. It’s however long it takes to get the work done. And if they’re using AI to get the work done faster, that’s what agencies are trying to go after. They want to get more work done faster so they can spend less money. The downside of that is the people actually doing the work and the people who are billing for the work are making less money. This is the rub, this is the hard part.

So in this Upwork news release from July 14th, so it is a little about two months old. New research shows that share of skilled knowledge workers who freelance jumped from 28% to 38% in one year as AI raises the premium on judgment-driven work and pressures execution tasks. There’s a lot to unpack there. So let’s go ahead and start to do that.

So if you think about a lot of the discourse that’s happening right now in the B2B industry or really kind of any industry, there’s a lot of pushback on AI generated content. So AI created anything. You have a whole camp of people who are saying no, thank you. They don’t want to see AI generated images, they don’t want any AI generated content. And we have a whole course on that helps you identify how people are using AI to write and how to flag this is written by AI.

So you can go to trustinsights.ai slash AI for writers to learn more about that. But back to the point, a lot of people, rightly so, don’t want to see AI generated content. And so part of the reason for that is because all of these large language models have been training on publicly available data. A lot of that publicly available data is still owned by an individual artist or an individual creator, but it’s being trained on in any way.

So you’re running into a lot of copyright infringement. You’re running into a lot of work that is being passed off as original, but really it’s AI. A really good example of this is, and I apologize, I don’t have the article up, but there is a story about the two mathematicians recently who’ve been working for years. Their life’s work was to solve this particular equation.

And they were very close to solving it, but a large language model swooped in, solved it for them, and then took the credit. So their whole life’s work has been reduced to nothing because the large language model said, hey, I can do that. And this is where the friction is coming from. There are still people who want to be creating and owning all of the work solely without the assistance of AI. The flip side of that is that companies are not willing to pay now for the amount of time that that manual handcrafted work is taking. So where does that leave us with today’s topic of billable hours?

Well, I think again, I think back to when I was working at an agency and our time was in billable hours. It was really tricky to think through what was I doing for an entire hour. So depending on the person, you may have someone who’s really efficient, you may have someone who works a little bit slower. You’re never going to get sort of that equal playing field of an hour is an hour is an hour.

And so, if you spend an hour on a call with a client, that’s one billable hour. But then you take another 10 minutes to clean up the conference room, bring your stuff back to your desk, answer a couple of emails, and type up the notes from the meeting. So that’s where does that 10 minutes go? It gets really hard and we start to estimate. Well, if you get to 10 minutes, then you estimate up to the 30-minute mark.

If it’s anything less than that, then it doesn’t count. That only gets you so far because then who’s eating that time? That goes into the overhead of the organization that you work for. They’re then eating that time and they’re not going to be happy about that. So if you think about that billable hour and what you’re actually doing, if you’re getting that work done now with AI and it’s getting done in a fraction of the time, can you bill that whole hour? It’s a really good argument for why value-based pricing is more effective, but it’s also harder to say, well, why is it priced this way?

So value-based pricing in a nutshell is essentially you’re paying for the expertise, you’re paying for the output, regardless of how the methodology was to create the final output, which it has its own set of issues. So, for example, if you’re paying for my expertise and Chris’s expertise, you have combined over 20-plus years of expertise in AI alone. Then you bring in analytics, then you bring in organizational behavior, then you bring in management, you have all of those different pieces that is unique to just myself and Chris. So regardless of how long the work takes, that’s what you’re paying for.

So we can be super efficient, or we can take weeks and weeks and weeks to create something. You’re not paying anything different for that. So there’s a definite benefit to value-based pricing only if you can prove that the person who is pricing it is actually the expert. And that’s a whole tricky thing. So back to this notion of how is AI changing the billable hour? Because it is changing it.

So what used to take maybe 30 minutes after a meeting to draft up notes is now done instantaneously because we have all of these AI transcription services. And so the notes just already exist and they’re cleaned up and they’re summarized and they’re ready to be sent out to everybody else. And it can be done automatically without you even sort of interjecting as that human in the loop to say, let me now read it and send it. They can send automatically. So how is that something that you can bill to a client?

One of the things that you know we just mentioned was what does it look like for legal? Legal being sort of the precedent for where billable hours started. Guess what? Legal’s changing. What’s driving legal AI pricing in 2026? This is an article by Cleo. So legal AI tools range from free to more than 1,200 dollars per seat per month. These are the things that are replacing the basics of law practice. So you have solo practitioners, who are trying to buy these tools.

The things that it’s replacing is sort of the basic research. It’s the basic pulling together of information, past precedents, past cases, it’s summarizing things. That’s the kind of work that maybe a paralegal would do, maybe a junior associate would do. And now law firms are turning to AI to replace those things. Is it still billable? Well, that’s what’s up for debate. Everything we’re coming to is that AI is changing the way that we’re thinking about everything we’re doing in terms of work.

So I don’t want to just sit here and pontificate, but basically, the thing that I come to, the issue that I have with billable work in general, with or without AI, is that a lot of it is subjective. So it’s a really good opportunity to look at your process for everything. And of course, I would be remiss if I didn’t bring up something like the 5P framework by Trust Insights. So you have purpose, people, process, platform, and performance.

Purpose, what are we doing? What’s the question we’re trying to answer? People who’s involved, process, how are we doing this? Platform, what tools are we using, and performance. Did we do the thing? When we think about what needs to be billable, this is a great place to start because not everyone is going to be on the same page. So let’s say you have a weekly report due to a client, and you know, this week it takes you one hour, next week it takes you two hours.

The week after it’s going to take you 30 minutes. You can’t just average it out and say, I’m just going to bill 90 minutes to the client, because that’s on average how long it takes. If they start to really scrutinize, that’s not going to work very well. So this is an opportunity to bring in the 5P framework by Trust Insights and really make sure that your process is clear. You can even start to put in timestamps to say this should take about this much time. This should take about this much time.

It’s like a recipe for baking or for making a dish. You know, we love our cooking now cooking analogies. If you think about gathering the data should take no more than 20 minutes. If it’s taking more than 20 minutes, that’s when things are going wrong, or there’s some sort of an anomaly, or there’s a technical issue. Those are the things that you want to factor in. Then assembling the report takes 30 minutes, then analyzing the report and then writing up the final pieces. That’s you know, all of your different time blocks.

Bringing that into AI, if you have an API, now the data collection is instantaneous. It no longer takes you 20 minutes, it takes you maybe 30 seconds because the machine has brought it all in. Assembling the report, copying and pasting slides might have taken you 30 minutes. Now it takes the machine about five minutes of processing, and you didn’t have to touch anything. You were in the kitchen making coffee, pulling the insights. I would highly recommend you still do this. But if you’re having the machine do it, something that may have taken you another 20 minutes to sort of go through and pull out all of the insights could take the machine. Again, it’s going to take less than a couple of minutes.

And then writing up the after action and the, you know, the next steps that might take you, the human, another 10 minutes to say, well, what do we want to do about it? It’s going to take the machine split seconds. So what was typically an hour now takes a machine maybe, maybe 10 minutes start to finish to do. So how do you bill for that? Well, this is where you want to make sure you’re keeping the human in the loop. So instead of just handing everything over to the machine, the client who is paying for your time and your expertise, maybe you’re offloading the part of the data collection.

Maybe you’re offloading the part of assembling the report, but you’re not offloading the part of the insights and the actions. What can happen is now you can spend more time really thinking through. Well, what do I know about this client? What do I know about this industry? Getting deeper into the insights of not just here’s the surface level of what I’m looking at, but what else can I bring into this that’s going to make it more useful? And then making sure that those actions are really and truly something not only that can be done, but that has an impact against the business goals and that are measurable.

That’s the trade-off when you start to think about well, it has to be a billable hour. It doesn’t take me an hour anymore. What is it that I can do for an hour? This is the conversation we’ve been having for a long time, a couple of years, about, you know, will AI take my job? Well, it’s going to take parts of it. It can take parts of the tasks, it can take the data collection, it can take the report assembly. But you, the human, should be retaining the critical thinking. I’ve been looking at AI as an opportunity to really get deeper into the thinking that I just didn’t have time to do before.

So I’ve been able to really focus on where are we going with the company? What are we doing well? What should we be doing less of? But the thing that was taking up a lot of my time was actually pulling together all of that data, pulling together all of that information. I can have the machines do that for me now. And now I can focus solely on what do we do about it? What does it say? A project that I was working on last week was cleaning up the data in our CRM. So our customer relationship management system and understanding how are people finding us? Because we have about eight years worth of data.

And I haven’t been able to confidently answer the question of here’s the channel that works, or here’s the thing that is a true buying signal. Using a large language model, I use Claude specifically, I was able to start to clean up and pattern match and say, this is the data that needs to be cleaned up, resolve that. These are the pieces that fit together. Let’s put that puzzle together. And now here’s everything. That by hand would have taken me weeks to do. Instead, using a large language model, it probably took me a couple of hours. So if you think about that billable time, you’re going from weeks to hours.

However, the trade-off is now I have this rich, clean data set that I can spend weeks if you’re sort of going by that sort of like one-to-one replacement building actionable campaigns against, doing deeper research on. I can now say this is a buying signal. If this is a buying signal, how do I get more of that? And spending my time there versus spending all of my time gathering the data. And that’s a bit of the trade-off. So again, when we get back to this notion of billable hours, yes, AI is changing the game, but you need to adapt with it. You need to be thinking through how does this look different? So if you’re still stuck in the, well, I bill for an hour because I sat in a meeting, that’s okay, but you can do better. And I encourage you to do better.

If it’s I bill for an hour because the report takes an hour, but now it only takes 10 minutes and I don’t know what to do, you’re really not taking advantage of the time savings that you’ve gotten from the AI system. This sort of brings into that other topic of how do I measure whether AI is working? So the billable hours of billable hour. You only have so many hours in a day, and you only have so many hours you can build, it’s what you’re doing with that time. So again, if the report used to take an hour, now it takes 10 minutes, great, that’s time savings. However, if nothing is happening with the report, if you’re not taking action on it, if you’re not learning more, then all AI did was save you time in assembling it. You didn’t take advantage of that extra 50 minutes that you got back to actually do something with it and move closer towards your business goals.

So that’s the way I want you to think about those billable hours. So, yes, AI is changing the way we’re thinking about billable hours, but there’s a really big opportunity for humans, for the critical thinkers, for the experts to dig in deeper to what is all of this information mean? So, if you’re not taking advantage of it, I highly recommend you do. So if you have thoughts on the billable hour, I definitely want to hear about it. What did I get right? What did I get wrong? What other information should we be thinking about? You can bring some of your comments into our free Slack community, trustinsights.ai slash analytics for marketers. Free to join. We’re active just about every day. There’s always a question of the day. It’s fun. If you want to learn more, you can go to our podcasts where this one is hosted, trustinsights.ai slash TI podcast. You can catch us on YouTube at TrustInsights.ai slash YouTube. If you want me to never do a solo podcast ever again, let me know. Or you know what? Maybe don’t. Maybe I just won’t do it again. Either way, we’ll catch you next time.

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